I worked at JHH and was called into the Nurse Manager’s office after a patient’s doctor complained that I had suggested that she talk with her doctor about why she was on a VIP unit after an 8 hour surgery for what was originally supposed to be a laparoscopy (around 1/2 hour.) someone had dropped a needle into the abdominal cavity. I think the doctor expected me to lie for her!
I think it was during Bill Clinton's presidency that he had surgery and they left scissors inside. He had to have a second surgery to remove them. If that happens to a president I wonder how much goes wrong with regular people
There is the possibility that the doctor was a Republican who didn't like Clinton, so there's that. But I get the gist of what you're saying. Thanks for this info, I never heard that before, I don't doubt it. The state of medical "practice" is horrendous. That's why they call it medical "practice" - they have NO idea what they're doing.
A nick in the bowel is often a risk factor during abdominal surgery .Adhesions (scar tissue)of the intestine is number one factor. Surgeon distraction, lack of protective measures, working too fast, lack of experience/ incompetence are contributing factors.
Retained sponges or instruments SHOULD NOT happen as these items are counted prior to using them and are recounted before the incision is closed. If any discrepancy ,xrays are done to locate the item and remove it before incision is closed.
Anyone that observes an adverse event is required to report it according o hospital policy.
The "cover up" behavior does occur, but with much less frequency than in the past.
And don't forget the huge numbers of doctors/surgeons who are hooked on heroin and other drugs. They have easy access to them. I was a therapist who worked in field of alcohol/drug addiction recovery.
Wow! Makes perfect sense, but I'd never heard that! Is a lot of their need to numb the cognitive dissonance that must be YELLING at these folks who were "the smartest kids" in high school?
Wow, that's very telling. I did know it was a HUGE problem but didn't know it was that bad. Alcoholics Anonymous has special groups for them, that's how bad it is. Heroin/morphine have been big players here but there are other drugs now that are probably big favorites, too.
I'm surprised any aware healthcare workers are currently sober actually. I can't imagine having recommended shots to ppl and having them die or end up very sick. The burden would be unbearable.
I do know of some nurses who fought management and said if they force jabs on patients, they will quit. So many of them at this one hospital did that, that management was forced to back down & not force jabs on folks. 2 of my doctors never participated in mandated jabs either.
I was blessed, did not sign up to give Covid jabs (there were plenty of volunteers) and at the bedside I "warn them" and they never say yes after talking to me.
I tried to give a family advice on finding a surgeon and he said, "he went to medical school isn't that enough?" I'll always be the dumb little sister/youngest child. 🙄
Unbelievable!!! They don't need to "know" anything anymore b/c they have algorithms to take care of it all! I heard an attending complaining about doing surgery 5 days in a row... "it's not a sustainable practice. I didn't get home until 8pm." Omg. Isn't this why med students go through the grueling training that they do? To endure long days/weeks? It used to be a badge of honor to work hard, esp for physians.
several docs and dentists I know work less than 9 to 5 and only 4 days a week. I was lucky last year to have a friend married to a dentist to have my problem taken care of, he was nice enough to sacrifice his lunch break !
We all need to stay away from dentists unless they are biological!! IAOMT certified and that have many designations after their name. Very hard to find!!
needle in a haystack I am afraid. I was glad he could do it, 2 days before Thanksgiving and no one available for weeks, and me with a sore, broken tooth
No I wouldn't. But neither do I want surgery done by someone who never learned about surgery or anything else that residents should be taught. I never thought 24 hr shift was a good thing but it does prepare you for the extreme pressure/stress of being a surgeon. Depending where you work you may be called out in middle of the night or have to stand doing surgery for 18 hrs.
It's more like the scalpel was in the wrong place. The intestines are perfectly in place below the stomach and above the anus. In this little pouch called the abdomen, there are mesenteric arteries and veins everywhere, and you can't miss the intestines.
I think that the doctor needed to have done more practicals.
I just love how doctors always blame the patients instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.
I knew medical field had gone downhill but reading through the comments here, I'm absolutely beyond stunned. This is horrifying. Who is making the decision not to have residents come into the hospital for training? It's almost as if they want us to die.
You mustn't forget, It's the jews, they own all the Hospitals( and prisons)and want all us Goys Dead!!! Wakey² sheeple! Our demonic, satanic, "jewnighted Snakes of Israel government", is solely to Blame?
Your title... sorry... made me think... "With the lights out, it's less dangerous; Here we are now, entertain us; I feel stupid and contagious... hello, hello, hello, how low..."
Sadly, giving birth. . needing medical help after an accident. . .and illness puts US ALL at risk when needing to go to a hospital! 😥 IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS WAY! 😡
My wife had a ureter stitched shut during a c-section and had to have additional surgery and a nephrostomy tube installed while waiting for her second surgery. I couldn't seem to find a lawyer who thought that we had any case at the time. It was a horrible experience for the entire family. The experience nearly killed her.
That poor woman! Has she no legal recourse? It's been in place for a long time that doctors can no longer be sued for malpractice, right? Can they be sued for everything else they did to this new mother? I hope she lives and can heal from all that. I think at this point I'd rather die outside of a hospital than in. So many 'routine' surgeries end up permanently ruining people's lives or killing them.
A very long time ago, 40 years, I cut off the top of two of my fingers using my lawn mower (very, very stupid as I lowered the wheels while the mower was running!). One of my neighbors was a nurse and she drove me to the hospital she worked at. She didn't trust the on-call surgeon and called one she did trust. He actually came from home and did the surgery although I'm sure both violated hospital rules. And he was really, really nice. What a difference from today.
The devil is in the detail, impossible to make value judgement without knowing the circumstances. If the lady had had previous surgery, bowel could have been stuck to the abdominal wall. In normal circumstances, careful dissection and technique may avoid bowel injury on abdominal entry, but this takes time, which is a luxury not always available if the Caesarean section is an emergency.
I worked at JHH and was called into the Nurse Manager’s office after a patient’s doctor complained that I had suggested that she talk with her doctor about why she was on a VIP unit after an 8 hour surgery for what was originally supposed to be a laparoscopy (around 1/2 hour.) someone had dropped a needle into the abdominal cavity. I think the doctor expected me to lie for her!
I think it was during Bill Clinton's presidency that he had surgery and they left scissors inside. He had to have a second surgery to remove them. If that happens to a president I wonder how much goes wrong with regular people
There is the possibility that the doctor was a Republican who didn't like Clinton, so there's that. But I get the gist of what you're saying. Thanks for this info, I never heard that before, I don't doubt it. The state of medical "practice" is horrendous. That's why they call it medical "practice" - they have NO idea what they're doing.
that idea crossed my mind after I posted this. And yes, practice is what it is. A nicer word than 'try'
Asshhole
Yeah. . .BIG HARMA "practices" on us while lining THEIR pockets! 😡 When Pfizer is prescribed. . . RUN!
Yup, sounds like it! Incompetent surgeons kill people.
Key word …. Incompetent.
Yup, sounds like it! Incompetent surgeons kill people.
A nick in the bowel is often a risk factor during abdominal surgery .Adhesions (scar tissue)of the intestine is number one factor. Surgeon distraction, lack of protective measures, working too fast, lack of experience/ incompetence are contributing factors.
Retained sponges or instruments SHOULD NOT happen as these items are counted prior to using them and are recounted before the incision is closed. If any discrepancy ,xrays are done to locate the item and remove it before incision is closed.
Anyone that observes an adverse event is required to report it according o hospital policy.
The "cover up" behavior does occur, but with much less frequency than in the past.
And don't forget the huge numbers of doctors/surgeons who are hooked on heroin and other drugs. They have easy access to them. I was a therapist who worked in field of alcohol/drug addiction recovery.
I had two to deal with, alcohol and cocaine. Ive actually had to deal with more nurses with opiods. Thanks for adding that in.
Wow! Makes perfect sense, but I'd never heard that! Is a lot of their need to numb the cognitive dissonance that must be YELLING at these folks who were "the smartest kids" in high school?
My acupuncturist says she assumes all physicians she treats are addicts unless proven otherwise. I was surprised! Oh how naive I was...
Wow, that's very telling. I did know it was a HUGE problem but didn't know it was that bad. Alcoholics Anonymous has special groups for them, that's how bad it is. Heroin/morphine have been big players here but there are other drugs now that are probably big favorites, too.
I'm surprised any aware healthcare workers are currently sober actually. I can't imagine having recommended shots to ppl and having them die or end up very sick. The burden would be unbearable.
I do know of some nurses who fought management and said if they force jabs on patients, they will quit. So many of them at this one hospital did that, that management was forced to back down & not force jabs on folks. 2 of my doctors never participated in mandated jabs either.
I was blessed, did not sign up to give Covid jabs (there were plenty of volunteers) and at the bedside I "warn them" and they never say yes after talking to me.
No way can I recommend after what I've observed.
… research your healthcare provider well. I can’t say it enough . July also , can be a disaster, when new house staff( residents and interns start ) .
I tried to give a family advice on finding a surgeon and he said, "he went to medical school isn't that enough?" I'll always be the dumb little sister/youngest child. 🙄
It’s bad Kat Bro
I know... I do training for med students... 🙀
WOW!
Oh my its soooo bad 😢
only child here. Very much the Cassandra type as well
There is a fellow here that is being held for another year... and he came from another fellowship. Scary times.
Very scary, our residents don’t even come to work , no chart review or grand rounds . They put in minimal time period .
Unbelievable!!! They don't need to "know" anything anymore b/c they have algorithms to take care of it all! I heard an attending complaining about doing surgery 5 days in a row... "it's not a sustainable practice. I didn't get home until 8pm." Omg. Isn't this why med students go through the grueling training that they do? To endure long days/weeks? It used to be a badge of honor to work hard, esp for physians.
several docs and dentists I know work less than 9 to 5 and only 4 days a week. I was lucky last year to have a friend married to a dentist to have my problem taken care of, he was nice enough to sacrifice his lunch break !
We all need to stay away from dentists unless they are biological!! IAOMT certified and that have many designations after their name. Very hard to find!!
needle in a haystack I am afraid. I was glad he could do it, 2 days before Thanksgiving and no one available for weeks, and me with a sore, broken tooth
I remember those days. That's horrifying.
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You got it right Kat Bro .. what state are you in ?? Ok if u can’t say
MI... I think you and I aren't too far from each other. I'm basically in Corewell's backyard on the west side of the state.
I"m gob-smacked. Seriously. Used to be residents did 24 hr shifts and it was hugely difficult part of training. How long has that been going on?
Would you want surgery done by someone who'd been up for 18 hours?
No I wouldn't. But neither do I want surgery done by someone who never learned about surgery or anything else that residents should be taught. I never thought 24 hr shift was a good thing but it does prepare you for the extreme pressure/stress of being a surgeon. Depending where you work you may be called out in middle of the night or have to stand doing surgery for 18 hrs.
I just saw a diagnosis of multiple organ atrophy... new one to me. Younger person 😞
Terrible 😞
It's more like the scalpel was in the wrong place. The intestines are perfectly in place below the stomach and above the anus. In this little pouch called the abdomen, there are mesenteric arteries and veins everywhere, and you can't miss the intestines.
I think that the doctor needed to have done more practicals.
I just love how doctors always blame the patients instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.
Sounds like you could be a surgeon!
I had to learn anatomy and physiology when I went to Radiation Technician School.
Well said, about the scalpel being in the wrong place.
I knew medical field had gone downhill but reading through the comments here, I'm absolutely beyond stunned. This is horrifying. Who is making the decision not to have residents come into the hospital for training? It's almost as if they want us to die.
You mustn't forget, It's the jews, they own all the Hospitals( and prisons)and want all us Goys Dead!!! Wakey² sheeple! Our demonic, satanic, "jewnighted Snakes of Israel government", is solely to Blame?
Stop calling them snakes. Snakes are not evil!
https://substack.com/@merrick1/note/c-60645391
Was probably trained by DEI in college and residency 🤬
Your title... sorry... made me think... "With the lights out, it's less dangerous; Here we are now, entertain us; I feel stupid and contagious... hello, hello, hello, how low..."
Sadly, giving birth. . needing medical help after an accident. . .and illness puts US ALL at risk when needing to go to a hospital! 😥 IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS WAY! 😡
My wife had a ureter stitched shut during a c-section and had to have additional surgery and a nephrostomy tube installed while waiting for her second surgery. I couldn't seem to find a lawyer who thought that we had any case at the time. It was a horrible experience for the entire family. The experience nearly killed her.
Wow! Dee a question. Is a C-section now done by a robot or still by a human?
Human
Tx, does smell!
That poor woman! Has she no legal recourse? It's been in place for a long time that doctors can no longer be sued for malpractice, right? Can they be sued for everything else they did to this new mother? I hope she lives and can heal from all that. I think at this point I'd rather die outside of a hospital than in. So many 'routine' surgeries end up permanently ruining people's lives or killing them.
A very long time ago, 40 years, I cut off the top of two of my fingers using my lawn mower (very, very stupid as I lowered the wheels while the mower was running!). One of my neighbors was a nurse and she drove me to the hospital she worked at. She didn't trust the on-call surgeon and called one she did trust. He actually came from home and did the surgery although I'm sure both violated hospital rules. And he was really, really nice. What a difference from today.
The devil is in the detail, impossible to make value judgement without knowing the circumstances. If the lady had had previous surgery, bowel could have been stuck to the abdominal wall. In normal circumstances, careful dissection and technique may avoid bowel injury on abdominal entry, but this takes time, which is a luxury not always available if the Caesarean section is an emergency.
Hmmm. Interesting.